Well, I think you might guess from this what my next BoB build is...
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phikoleoputra
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Wow, that's a lot of Spits. Post some pics as you go on with the project.
Nice.
Ill look forwards to those.
Ill look forwards to those.
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Laurie
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Yoicks. Paul why not go the whole hog and get a squadron ?
1/32. Have you a hidden runway some where ?
Laurie
1/32. Have you a hidden runway some where ?
Laurie
They're still waiting in the wings. I just wanted with this build to be the first kid on the block! I've been beaten to the punch on so many new kit builds I wanted front row, centre for this one! LOL!Very nice but where's your hurricane 's
More to the point, what's happening with my 2 Fokker Dr1s? Well, they have progressed a little and I may post the build shots this weekend.
This Spitfire extravaganza starts this weekend
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P
Got 'em! I'm way ahead of ya, LOL!You're going to need some serial and code letters
Hope you'll be joining me Steve. I may have some questions, and if Mr Brooks is reading I would be grateful for any of his considerable Spitfire wisdom (In particular the differences between Mk2s and 1s and particular radio set ups).
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P
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5?! FIVE?! wow that's a mega build Paul!
This will be interesting
This will be interesting
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That's a bloody good start then\ said:
Oddly I just answered a question elsewhere about the differences between IIs and Is. Externally they were identical (assuming we're talking machine gun armament) apart from a small bulge on the starboard engine cowling which covered the Coffman starter.
I'd have to check but I think most BOB era Spitfires still used the old TR9 High Frequency wireless which required the fin to aerial post antenna wire. I've certainly seen pictures of Mk IIs so equipped. Most front line units got the TR1133 VHF radios towards what we consider the end of the BoB (September onwards).
Then you've got the Mk 1 IFF 'cheese cutter' antenna wires running from the horizontal stabilisers to the fuselage. Or maybe you don't. Again date dependent and they rarely show up in photos. The insulators where the wires enter the fuselage are sometimes visible, usually at about 10 or 2 o'clock (depending on which side) in the roundel.
Someone else may have a firmer grasp of what happened and when, with a bit of luck
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Steve
Thanks Steve
I knew about the Coffman starter, also isn't there a hole for the hand crank starter on the Mk 1? (same side as the starter but closer to the wing) I think there's a small info plaque above/below it.
The radio sets I think depend on how late the machine is. I also think that gun heaters were introduced on the Mk1 and these have vent bulges on the underside wing tips (these tend to be a real pig to get the roundels decals to sit over!) These bulges will be present on the Mk2- I just need to ensure the machines I'm depicting are the later Mk1s or make the necessary adjustments. I believe there are differences to the cockpit also, depending on date - the hand pump for the U/C is an obvious difference on early Mk1s that I know of.
Thanks for the info and the pic - the Coffman starter cowling bulges will be removed!
Cheers
Paul
I knew about the Coffman starter, also isn't there a hole for the hand crank starter on the Mk 1? (same side as the starter but closer to the wing) I think there's a small info plaque above/below it.
The radio sets I think depend on how late the machine is. I also think that gun heaters were introduced on the Mk1 and these have vent bulges on the underside wing tips (these tend to be a real pig to get the roundels decals to sit over!) These bulges will be present on the Mk2- I just need to ensure the machines I'm depicting are the later Mk1s or make the necessary adjustments. I believe there are differences to the cockpit also, depending on date - the hand pump for the U/C is an obvious difference on early Mk1s that I know of.
Thanks for the info and the pic - the Coffman starter cowling bulges will be removed!
Cheers
Paul
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I'm pretty sure that the gun heating system, the one that used hot air from the starboard wing radiator, was standard on all production Mk Is (and IIs). I think the supplementary heating, from the exhausts came later.
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Steve
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Steve
Cheers Steve I hope you're right with the heating system it will mean less work.
My knowledge on Spits is a bit sketchy but hopefully we'll all learn something through this.
The plan with this build is to build 4 of the 5 kits.
3 will be wheels up and of the same squadron (probably 92), the other will have all the aftermarket whistles and bells - flaps down on the ground. All have pilots and the resin kits I've gone for are of superb quality. Hopefully my painting skills will do them justice.
The plan for the 3 wheels up kits will be to do some 'green screen' magic and have 3 Mk1 Spitfires flying in formation. I'll try to make these shots as photo real as poss and I'm interested to see how 3 Mk1s will look in full colour. Later on I plan on using the same aircraft in dogfight action with a couple of Luftwaffe builds. I plan to build one of my He111s wheels up and I think they should look great together. Also, one of my other 109s will be built wheels up - so plenty of action shots coming up. I'd love to recreate how the Kent skies could have looked in 1940, time will tell whether I succeed or not.
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Flaps down on the ground? I believe that was a five bob fine for the pilot
I do like the sound of your plan for some 'green screen magic'. It sounds really interesting and I'm certainly looking forward to seeing how that progresses. Some of these will be substantial models, that He 111 will be a fair size. I built the Ju 88 a while ago and it barely fitted on my shelves!
You'd better get on and build some of the subjects, I'm sure you'll make a fine job of them
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I do like the sound of your plan for some 'green screen magic'. It sounds really interesting and I'm certainly looking forward to seeing how that progresses. Some of these will be substantial models, that He 111 will be a fair size. I built the Ju 88 a while ago and it barely fitted on my shelves!
You'd better get on and build some of the subjects, I'm sure you'll make a fine job of them
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I read that Spitfire flaps were always retracted on the ground to prevent fouling of airflow through the radiator and oil cooler. Those flaps I believe only had two settings, UP or DOWN. And they hang pretty low too!
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And large scale too. Good luck mate.
John
John
Thanks guys
I know that the flaps aren't supposed to be down when on the ground, this particular aircraft may have to be a maintenance scene. The real reason for this though is that I've bought the PE flaps and i'm jolly well going to use them!!! I've got 5 of these kits so I have the option to build another earth tied Spit with flaps up and raring to go should I wish to. Or scrap the maintenance scene and have 2 ideas - 'green screen magic' and a brace of spits with scrambling pilots. I can save the flaps for another Spit another time.
Preference anyone - Spitfire maintenance or Spitfire scramble?
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I know that the flaps aren't supposed to be down when on the ground, this particular aircraft may have to be a maintenance scene. The real reason for this though is that I've bought the PE flaps and i'm jolly well going to use them!!! I've got 5 of these kits so I have the option to build another earth tied Spit with flaps up and raring to go should I wish to. Or scrap the maintenance scene and have 2 ideas - 'green screen magic' and a brace of spits with scrambling pilots. I can save the flaps for another Spit another time.
Preference anyone - Spitfire maintenance or Spitfire scramble?
Cheers
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If you want the flaps down, have them down. The best plausible explanation would be a maintenance scene. There is a famous picture of a Spitfire (ZD-A) parked with flaps down but this was following a wheels down forced landing when the pilot might not have followed standard operating procedure in the rush to get to the loo.
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Steve
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Steve