Needle in and out - which way?

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Besides the Aztek, with ordinary dual action airbrushes, how do you insert the needle from the front unless you remove the sharp tip of the nozzle?
With the H & S airbrushes the nozzle comes off when you remove the air cap.

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this is a nozzle assembly....about twice real size lol

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I'm with Paul on this one. I have a dual action aztek that I bought in 1997 and it works great. I don't know squat about the dual action end, but it lays down a nice coat of paint!!!
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The cup can be inserted on either side and you can get different tips for it too...

Forgot to mention that paint flow is controlled by the silver wheel on the back of it
 
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That’s interesting Allen for more than one reason. I’ve got a couple of old Thayer and Chandler beasties (that I’ve never used) and they are side fed. I don’t think I’d get parts for them now.
 

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Max, I thought I couldn't get anything for mine either, but last year I picked up a new tip (the tan one) and a large cup for it. It appears Aztek parts are still available and fit one another too. I'm afraid to try any high tech hissy stick thing myself...
 
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Max, I thought I couldn't get anything for mine either, but last year I picked up a new tip (the tan one) and a large cup for it. It appears Aztek parts are still available and fit one another too. I'm afraid to try any high tech hissy stick thing myself...
I think my T&C’s are probably a lot older than your Aztek Allen, but I live in hope!
 

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This is going to upset the apple cart max but i always take the needle out from the back and put it back in the same way , the only time i take off the nozzle is if the brush isnt spraying properly , to clean it . And all the airbrushes i use regularly are chinese cheapos !! Cheers tony
 
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This is going to upset the apple cart max but i always take the needle out from the back and put it back in the same way , the only time i take off the nozzle is if the brush isnt spraying properly , to clean it . And all the airbrushes i use regularly are chinese cheapos !! Cheers tony
Well thanks for that Tony! If you haven’t guessed already it’s a Chinese cheapo I’ve bought!
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Hi all, I have an Iwatta and always remove and replace the needle from the back. I have bought a quick release modification for it that is designed to allow exactly that approach. Anything else would just seem weird :tongue-out3:

By the way, I also have an Aztec, which I used for a few years. I found it needed a lot of air to function correctly, and struggled for fine lines. I liked the settings wheel on the barrel though, allows good control of line width so making consistency a little easier. By the way, using Allen’s picture as a reference, the white bit is the nozzle, the metal bit is the needle, and the coloured bit is the body, so the technology is exactly the same.....
 

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Thanks Peter
Yeah I hear they were taken over by Badger a while back, and I suspect spares for my old beasties (which are unlike any they’re selling today) are well out of stock.
Try emailing them - you never know!

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Hi all, I have an Iwatta and always remove and replace the needle from the back. I have bought a quick release modification for it that is designed to allow exactly that approach. Anything else would just seem weird :tongue-out3:

By the way, I also have an Aztec, which I used for a few years. I found it needed a lot of air to function correctly, and struggled for fine lines. I liked the settings wheel on the barrel though, allows good control of line width so making consistency a little easier. By the way, using Allen’s picture as a reference, the white bit is the nozzle, the metal bit is the needle, and the coloured bit is the body, so the technology is exactly the same.....

The First pic of the Aztek is from Paul (Beowulf). I tried to quote him and messed it up...
 
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Max, I thought I couldn't get anything for mine either, but last year I picked up a new tip (the tan one) and a large cup for it. It appears Aztek parts are still available and fit one another too. I'm afraid to try any high tech hissy stick thing myself...


Aztek is made/sold by Testors in the US of A......you can get bits easy enough on ebay or amazon........not sure who is the importer into the UK .....HobbyCraft used to carry nozzles but stopped last year
 

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Paul, My Aztek was packaged by Testors and came in a nice plastic case. It also included the red cleaning tool and a good length of hose too. I found my tip and the cup here in Germany as a hobby dealer was clearing out his inventory and had marked them down as old stock. Great for me. Gotta try that new tip someday...
 

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I remove my H& S tip, unscrew the back lock and pull the needle out from the back. After cleaning with a fwd motion ( towards the tip.) I apply a smear of Iwatta grease to the shaft and then carefully replace from the back. Before the final push I refit the tip and then gently push the needle home and relock. I find the grease gives a smooth action .
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I see... the Aztek is a single action airbrush with the paint control is situated at the back and not the front as conventional single action airbrushes.

With the H & S airbrushes the nozzle comes off when you remove the air cap.

Pete

Hi Peter, which model do you have as there are some H&S with screw tips and some with floating tips? I believe the ones with the floating tips just come off when you remove the nozzle assembly.
John, you too which model are you having?

Cheers,
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I see... the Aztek is a single action airbrush with the paint control is situated at the back and not the front as conventional single action airbrushes.



Hi Peter, which model do you have as there are some H&S with screw tips and some with floating tips? I believe the ones with the floating tips just come off when you remove the nozzle assembly.
John, you too which model are you having?

Cheers,
Richard
Hi Richard.
Ultra, the nozzle unscrews, then I remove the inner tip. Also have the Infinity model ( beautiful control ) which has the same tip system.
John.
 

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I see... the Aztek is a single action airbrush with the paint control is situated at the back and not the front as conventional single action airbrushes.



Hi Peter, which model do you have as there are some H&S with screw tips and some with floating tips? I believe the ones with the floating tips just come off when you remove the nozzle assembly.
John, you too which model are you having?

Cheers,
Richard
Infinity. The bit that unscrews is the air cap, the nozzle is not fixed but is retained by the air cap.

Pete
 
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