Now about this tag picture quiz PLEASE READ!

Should this thread be put to out to grass.

  • YES stop this nonsense

  • NO it's fun and who cares about copywrite anyway

  • Keep it but MODEL RELATED only.

  • Keep it but only photographs you have taken yourself.


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John Race

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#42
Oh dear, if most posts could have this many replies in as shorter time wouldn't it be nice. :rolling:

Gentleman, Ron and fellow members, time to end this don't you think., give the evening shift and those in far flung places chance to join in. We will never all agree, just mention paint for an example. !

What ever the admin /mods decide is ok with me.
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#43
It's the volume of distraction on the quiz thread not others, that concerns some members.
I still don’t understand this. It seems to be the main argument (though all we have is second-hand reports about the complaints), but can someone please explain to me how hits on one thread take away hits on another? Hits on a web page (thread, whatever) are not like money — there’s a basically unlimited supply, it’s not that every visitor to this forum has only a limited budget to spend.

Related to that, I still also can’t get my head around why a thread can be a distraction if you don’t look at it. There’s plenty of articles in the newspaper every morning that I don’t read because the headline doesn’t catch my interest, but I don’t complain they shouldn’t be in the paper … Forum threads are no different: just don’t click on one that you don’t care for.
 

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#44
I still don’t understand this. It seems to be the main argument (though all we have is second-hand reports about the complaints), but can someone please explain to me how hits on one thread take away hits on another? Hits on a web page (thread, whatever) are not like money — there’s a basically unlimited supply, it’s not that every visitor to this forum has only a limited budget to spend.

Related to that, I still also can’t get my head around why a thread can be a distraction if you don’t look at it. There’s plenty of articles in the newspaper every morning that I don’t read because the headline doesn’t catch my interest, but I don’t complain they shouldn’t be in the paper … Forum threads are no different: just don’t click on one that you don’t care for.
Ultimately this is John's and the admins decision on what to do with the quiz thread. I have no strong opinion either way.

My thought on this - whilst views/hits are not be a finite product, peoples time is. Therefore people might spend more of their time budget looking at the quiz v.s. looking at other topics, commenting and helping grow a community of modelers.

I also think that if someone new to the forum saw this and some of the more arcane questions on there it could be more intimidating for them to join - it could make the group comes across as a group of rivet counters (far from the truth, this is a very friendly, welcoming place).

To use the newspaper analogy if the headline is always something you disagree with you don't buy that newspaper, logic would follow then that if the quiz is consistently in 1st page of results for new posts people might not join the forum.

1st impressions count and all that.
 
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#45
Just to add my two pence worth for what it matters, I have looked in on the photo quiz thread but not commentated on it (no surprise as I haven't commented on any threads recently) and realised it wasn't for me. Now as complaints have been made about the thread understandably the moderators have taken action, and if I had been a regular contributer to the photo quiz I would have been upset by the wording used in this thread, having said that I find some of the replies on this thread over the top. Since the closure of MM forum I have felt an underlying friction between some of the pre-existing members of this site and some of the incoming group and the other way round. The bottom line is that the moderators have a job to do which is sometimes unpalatable to other members of the forum but it's the only way a forum can work, I can only say that I now regret posting this forums attributes on the previous one, as now 2 groups of people are unhappy.
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#46
As I said earlier I have never posted on or even looked at the Tag Quiz thread - until just now.
Just a couple of observations based on quickly scanning back over the last month of posts there.
The thread has a huge number of posts but relatively few posters. Over the last month only about 15 different people have posted and the vast majority of posts were by a hard core of about half a dozen or so.
The majority of people who posted on the Tag Quiz thread are also regular posters on other threads.
Food for thought?
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#47
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Forgot how entertaining and informative the quiz thread was as i hadn't looked in for a while...thanks Ian.....have heard of many reasons for closing something down but because it gets lots of hits and is popular entertaining and totally harmless?????....as to putting it to a public vote.....i come from a small part of the UK were narrow mindedness and democracy go hand in hand with the result that we havent had a sitting government for ages so i am all in favour of a good dictatorship when possible...so John..its your site...if u want to close it go ahead...you will upset a few people....if u want to keep it open go ahead...you will upset a few people......me???i will hopefully carry on building models very slowly as usual....cheers Marty
 

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#48
Ultimately this is John's and the admins decision on what to do with the quiz thread.
Obviously, but Ian did put it up for discussion (rightly so, IMHO) before a decision is made.
 

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#51
Its abit of fun people need to get over it and let people have some fun aint that what we are all hear for share a modles have a chat meet new people and have fun people need to grow up and stop beong keyboard wariors i think there all pathetic and need to get a grip
I'm not bothered if I possibly become disliked, that has happened already, but after a short spell on the sidelines and for all our sakes, I have to intervene.

Can I remind the writer of the above that John, the owner of S.M. will be reading this post and all that has gone before on this thread.
Members were in the main, airing their views calmly and reasoned, which is correct and how it should be done. There is no need to resort to such words as "need to grow up" "Pathetic" "and need to get a grip"

It also saddens me that there are members who 'Like' the use of such language.

Rest assured John will reach his own conclusion without needing help from anyone and reading the above post might not help the 'Keep the Thread' cause. So can we please be civilized in any future post on this thread?

Back on the bench.
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#52
To be honest i dont care reach what conclusions that you like its not made to be malicious in any way its the truth these people ruin fun for other members we will loose this thread but whay do they loose nothing its hardley fair but were the ones that get called out and other fourm members agree as some have liked the post you will do as you please as mods probley remove me for saying what most think but darnt say from fear of being removed
 

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#56
My God, this has got completely out of hand.
A mention of having a vote and the ensuing row has made us sound like a bunch of children in the playground. I now have good friends saying they are thinking of going !
Yes I know I joined in , in what I hope was a civilised manor. Now it appears to have generated into a slanging match.
Come on guys, were here to build models, discusses techniques , help each other in our online club, not to squabble like children.
I'm nearly 71, and want this forum to continue.
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It seems to be a bit of a mute point now. The last post on the Tag picture thread was last evening, with a who is it question. No one else has posted for over a day.

Whichever angle you look at this from it puts the members and the forum in a poor light. Someone watching from outside could say this had come about due to jealousy from those that felt they were not getting due recognition for their build threads. There maybe some truth to it. Forums/clubs can be funny like that.

I enjoyed dipping into the thread periodically to see what was new. I found the breadth of knowledge outstanding. It even showed parts of history that I had no knowledge of. It showed that we are not just modellers but historians or geeks if you are into sci-fi. As stated above it is Admins call to make, as to what happens to the thread now. I suggest someone answers the last question and the thread is locked.

Going forward. Could it be possible to set a time limit for posting on threads. Say 3 months. Build threads that run longer than 3 months can start a Part 2 thread and so on. Until the build is complete.
 

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#58
"It seems to be a bit of a mute point now. The last post on the Tag picture thread was last evening, with a who is it question. No one else has posted for over a day."

That's probably because of this thread no doubt.

From my point - I only come here to look at :-

1) Latest Activity, to see if there is anything worth looking at!
2) Spots on Tinternet, Dave does a brilliant job.
3) Anything that ~I may find interesting in the build blogs, and
4) Tag Piccie Thread. I have contributed and surprised myself winning a couple, but
I do (like a few people) find it informative.

To me if something doesn't look interesting or is not something that appeals to me then I don't bother.
After all like so many have said in this thread - if you don't like the headline - buy another paper. :smiling2::smiling2::smiling2:

Paul.
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#59
Well this went well didn't it children. lol
I have once more ran through the thread in question along with this one.
Si Benson?! I have removed the snide comments in your profile and also deactivated your account. As you requested. Profile details are NOT a place to make such comments and any such will be removed PDQ. :astonished:
Bilbo, along with anyone else that is interested; John is the boss but he has charged me with the day to day Administration of the forum. There have been occasions where I have tried to be flexible,tolerant or just turned a blind eye, where John has stepped in an closed a thread no discussion, no explanation. As Is his right.
John takes care mostly of back stage, I get to hop and dance stage center, if you like.
James1997. No but keep it up and you might find out. Here is a good tip for all and any; Do not go out of your way to abuse the staff. it wont end well.
Wizzzbang. A fairly good idea with a time limit on threads :cool:, but I have not been able to see a way to do it. Yet. Maybe John knows a way. However, with some of the builders on here it could end up with some builds having 10 threads.... :smirk:

I have seen that the actual number of members that regularly post in the Quiz are but a handful most of which are the "Spring refugees" with a couple of the "old boys" So it is not as if everyone on the forum is joining in.
There is quite a bit of chat and banter which pads it out a bit and the old chestnut, including photos in quotes/replies, A thing which we have tried to knock down on several occasions.
As an example in the Latest acquisitions thread. I went through that once and removed all the photos that where included in quoted replies that alone shaved 10 pages off the thread!
God knows how much server space they all take. (A server that John pays for out of his own pocket).
In the short time this thread has ran, I can see that it is a very mixed bag of emotions. Most defending the thread, but the votes say close it. How confusing is that?
I know that this post is getting long, but I have a whole pot of coffee. However, as someone once wrote "The end is neigh".

I think that the Issue some members have is not that the thread is so big with a gazillion views, I think they are concerned that the rest of the forum is getting over looked.
I am now going to go and have a good think on this to find a solution that is amicable to all (well as many as possible).
 

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#60
I agree with John that this has all become a bit silly. I'm not going to comment on the TAG question - I've had my vote and that's that. What worries me is that there still seems to be a 'them and us' thing going on - the ''Spring Refugees' versus the 'Old Boys'. I find this very disappointing and a bit sad, and wonder if it it isn't the true root of complaints about the TAG thread.

I can understand how overwhelming the sudden influx of new members must have been, and I can even understand why some would feel resentment, but isn't it time we 'new' members were accepted? I think that the majority of refugees have tried their hardest to fit in and are generally contributing in a positive way to the site.

I also think we should take heed of what has been said about John and the site. This is all privately funded and only here by the grace of that good man, and I for one am very grateful to him. The reason that the other site folded was because it was sponsored by a magazine that saw declining sales and was not supported by the majority of the forum membership - people just could not be made to see that they were mutually dependent. Don't take this one for granted.

Now, shall we all get back to some modelling?
 
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