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Hi all I got this last Xmas and although I don't get much modelling time these days I wanted to start it but as always with a difference I want to depict her during the battle as she's sinking and at the bottom of the sea, all at the same time.
I realise she didn't break up and apart from 35 meters of the stern is still in one piece on the bottom.
She landed practically on top of an undersea volcano which erupted and she slid down the side as the volcano erupted leaving her laying level on the seabed with her stern mostly covered.
My problem is do I play with the historical facts and cut her into 3 sections to depict what I want or is there a way of depicting the whole thing whist keeping her whole.
 

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Hi Ken
Can't offer any advice but it certainly sounds like a project I shall enjoy watching.
So front seat for me.
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Nice idea Ken, you could show it like in picture 2 that Pete put up. the ship whole but guns falling off and the like.
 

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Thanks for the graphic peter.
Got my thinking cap on
 

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How easy is it to cast resin and would it be possible to cast a hull this size.
 

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Hi all well I think I'm just going to go with the wreck dio ( will need a fair bit of scratch building but I'm up for it)

As an interesting angle on size and shape look at this.





She was a tad bigger than the KGV but almost identical in shape.

Anyway made a start on painting her





Not going to go overboard with the painting as most of it won't be seen.

I must say I'm going to really enjoy this as I love doing rusty things (for those who don't know me i love doing cars and motorcycles, which I usually do with a fair bit of ware and tear)

As per this example.

 

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Hi Ken
This will be fun. It's a huge model. I have only done one rusty wreck - an old tug boat. Enjoyed it and I'd like to try a car.
Resin casting something that size would be fraught with problems. Hard to make a mould rigid enough and you would need a huge amount of rubber. You would almost certainly get warping and shrinking with the resin at that size. The cost would also be prohibitive.
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Hi all well got the hull painted, as I said I'm not too worried about the accuracy of the painting as most of it won't be seen when it's on the sea bed and yes I know the stern painting is a bit off but since that will be sheared off in the dio it won't be a problem, also another size comparison against the Titanic (which incidentally seems to be exactly the same length of the KGV although she was much higher makes me wonder were battleships given a low profile to make them harder to be seen.





 

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Hi all before risking the actual ship to my first attempts at an underwater dio I tried an experiment does this look convincing took me ages (well 15 mins) I'm quite happy with it.
I'm trying to get it to look like this
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Hi Ken
I'd say success - looks very convincing. How did you do it?
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Hi Jim this is how I did it.
Sprayed the base with carpet glue (comes in a can got mine from pound shop I know they gone now but I'm pretty sure I saw it in b and m)

Sprinkled talcum powder over it and added the ship

Then sprayed more glue and talcum

Then sprayed with my ab

As you can see really complicated and would take years to learn.
 

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nice work so far ken, one complaint tho please could people stop giving my brother ideas, he's mad enough to come up with thing from spare model parts and other odd bits and peices please don't encourage him even more thank you, but still nice work. :smiling5::smiling5::smiling5::smiling5:
 

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Hi all drilled out a couple of the big turrets bases and added the traversing gear to the inside of one of them (still got to deepen the shaft and add some internal detail)I'm only planing on making the base a little larger than the model, should I still add the missing turrets and other superstructure that came off even though they were found a long way from the wreck.


Encase anyone thinks I've stopped working on the KGV I've not it's just the part I'm working on now has 4 pompoms and the PE takes ages.
 

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Hi Ken
Thanks for the explanation. I am sure it is harder to get such a good result than you make it sound.
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Hi all I had to drill out the lower deck to allow for the details I have to add as the turrets won't be there.



And gave the decking it's first coat of paint





As you can see the traversing gear needs a bit of work
 
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Hi all started on the base







I've tried to get the seabed undulations as like the photos as I can, still got some fine tweaking to do to it yet.

I've drawn some of the damage on the hull and decking I'm thinking of using a soldering iron to inflict it.





 
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