Jim R
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That IP doesn't look bad at all Barry. Shame about the Eduard set. I have found similar problems with coloured PE seat belts. The instructions say bend but then the coloured layer just cracks off.
Trumpeter 1/32 Lightning P-38L-5-LO
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My bench time has been a little limited over the last week so progress is slow. That said the cockpit is largely done, some elements will be needed to be done late in the build.
A couple of pics.
I really do recommend avoiding the Eduard sets for this kit, both the seatbelts and ip. These are the old, horrible type that are a real pain, I managed to get the seatbelts used but, as mentioned, the ip was binned and the kit part used.
I would suggest getting a more generic USAAF seatbelt set, perhaps Eduard’s ‘steel type’ or a HGW set, if you have the ability, unlike me, to make them up.
A couple of pics.
I really do recommend avoiding the Eduard sets for this kit, both the seatbelts and ip. These are the old, horrible type that are a real pain, I managed to get the seatbelts used but, as mentioned, the ip was binned and the kit part used.
I would suggest getting a more generic USAAF seatbelt set, perhaps Eduard’s ‘steel type’ or a HGW set, if you have the ability, unlike me, to make them up.
Fitting the cockpit into the two fuselage halves is a little complex but with some dry fitting to work out how to best fit it, it goes in well with no fit issues whatsoever. Lots of clamping is needed.
Can never have too many clamps.
Looking good Barry.
The upload issue: has you camera software updated. I find that photos to the forum are a bit squiffy after an update and some of the setting need fine tuning.
The upload issue: has you camera software updated. I find that photos to the forum are a bit squiffy after an update and some of the setting need fine tuning.
More progress.
Firstly I paints three coloured lights, red, green and amber. The green one pinged off and I have no idea where it went, so I fixed the other two and used Micro Kristal Klear on the middle one which will dry clear. My plan is that once the model is painted, to paint the middle one green and when dry to use more Kristal Klear to make a lens on top.
As you can see I have attached the flaps and ailerons, I ignored the daft metal hinges Trumpeter supplied and just cemented them into place.
One of the expected issues is to get the twin booms on straight and properly aligned. I decided to cement one in place, checking both I found that one is a better fit and decided to use that one. Once that boom is fully dried and solid, I will look at how best to approach the other and the tail.
Firstly I paints three coloured lights, red, green and amber. The green one pinged off and I have no idea where it went, so I fixed the other two and used Micro Kristal Klear on the middle one which will dry clear. My plan is that once the model is painted, to paint the middle one green and when dry to use more Kristal Klear to make a lens on top.
As you can see I have attached the flaps and ailerons, I ignored the daft metal hinges Trumpeter supplied and just cemented them into place.
One of the expected issues is to get the twin booms on straight and properly aligned. I decided to cement one in place, checking both I found that one is a better fit and decided to use that one. Once that boom is fully dried and solid, I will look at how best to approach the other and the tail.
I have not been posting as frequently on this for two reasons, less bench time and it’s slow going cleaning up seams as I go. While the twin boom structure is reasonably strong I cannot sand too rigorously as it creaks and it would be easy to break.
So the main airframe is complete except for the nose gun bay. As you can see a fair bit of weight will need to be added.
I sprayed the seams with primer
to help with the surface prep.
I have also been working on a lot of sub assemblies.
Steady progress if not particularly fast.
So the main airframe is complete except for the nose gun bay. As you can see a fair bit of weight will need to be added.
I sprayed the seams with primer
to help with the surface prep.
I have also been working on a lot of sub assemblies.
Steady progress if not particularly fast.
I have started work on the gun bay and nose section. It’s times like this that I am so glad I like to have the panels closed. Dry fitting shows that the gun bay and panels won’t fit at all so I have had to cut parts right back.
At least the panels themselves fit, as long as the internal detail is not there.
That’s a good starting point.
Here is the gun bay dry fitted to the nose.
I cut it back to this, still a dry fit and the main cannon is not in place as I will need to slide that in later.
I may have to trim more off later when I fit the nose.
The panels need some plastic sheet to make sure they have a strong join.
The central ‘spine’ could then be fitted, again it needed a bit of trimming with a bulkhead to the rear having to be cut off. That bit of bulkhead prevented the spine from fitting to the fuselage in the right position.
I am leaving that to properly dry before the next stage
At least the panels themselves fit, as long as the internal detail is not there.
That’s a good starting point.
Here is the gun bay dry fitted to the nose.
I cut it back to this, still a dry fit and the main cannon is not in place as I will need to slide that in later.
I may have to trim more off later when I fit the nose.
The panels need some plastic sheet to make sure they have a strong join.
The central ‘spine’ could then be fitted, again it needed a bit of trimming with a bulkhead to the rear having to be cut off. That bit of bulkhead prevented the spine from fitting to the fuselage in the right position.
I am leaving that to properly dry before the next stage
A quick one. I measured our 60grams of liquid gravity into a shot glass and balanced that on the nose!
Perfect. I now know how much I need to use. A bit too much to fit into the nose itself (as Trumpy suggest) but it clearly works a bit further back.
Perfect. I now know how much I need to use. A bit too much to fit into the nose itself (as Trumpy suggest) but it clearly works a bit further back.
That’s coming on well Barry, looks excellent so far.
Just remember that as you move the weight back towards the pivot point the turning moment is decreased and you need more weight to generate the same effect Barry. That shot glass is right on the extremity so is exerting the most it can.
It works like this….
Don’t want to tell you how to suck eggs, but also did want you to zip it all up and find she won’t balance, especially after all this great work you’ve put in.
Yes Tim, thanks. I am aware. I positioned it there because the instructions say 60gms in the nose cone but there is not really enough room, hence trying it a little further back, where I did.
I have started fitting some ballast and also attached the panel. As you can see it needs those bits of plastic card. I need to fit a bit of a bulkhead to keep the next lot of ballast at that forward point.
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Coming on nicely Barry.
That liquid gravity looks just like the very smallest lead shot I used for fishing not that I do much... Last time I checked shot size 8 and below could still be lead and I still have some in the fishing box.
Will be interesting to work out which is cheaper....a premium modelling product or cheap lead shot....
ATB
Andrew
That liquid gravity looks just like the very smallest lead shot I used for fishing not that I do much... Last time I checked shot size 8 and below could still be lead and I still have some in the fishing box.
Will be interesting to work out which is cheaper....a premium modelling product or cheap lead shot....
ATB
Andrew
scottie3158
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Barry,
That was a serious amount of internal detail that you had to remove to get everything to fit.
That was a serious amount of internal detail that you had to remove to get everything to fit.
Jim R
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There are certainly some serious fit issues to deal with. As you say panels could not be modelled open which is a shame.
Having said that you're doing your usual excellent build.
Having said that you're doing your usual excellent build.
If you do use genuine lead shot Andrew don’t glue it in with PVA. If you do it turns into Lead acetate, which expands and can crack joints over time. Used to be a common issue amongst loco builders back in the nineties.
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Duly noted....is CA ok? Had planned to use that.